real gone girl studios ([info]real_gone_girl) wrote,
@ 2009-03-03 15:46:00
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living with terror
maybe this will make jobnik 7 more real & motivate me to freaking finish it already:


teen19

it's from fairly late in the issue, as you see, but not spoilery.


i've been trying to improve my art without making it, you know, too unlike the art of volume 1 (cause i want it to be all one cohesive work eventually, & god should strike me down if if i ever try to re-redraw pages). some blogger said i don't draw in perspective, which was shockingly untrue, but has also caused me to consciously move past one-point all the time. hopefully the two- & occasional three-point panels give the jobnik!world more depth.... i'm liking them anyhow. i'm also trying to be even more conscious about character design & popping foreground elements out from the background, although i can't say i've cracked the latter yet.

also, as you can see, i'm laying the handlettering down on the page from the get-go, which may be contributing to my slowness.

what do you think?




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[info]crookedheart
2009-03-04 12:31 am UTC (link)
I think it definitely still has the feel of the first comics. and, for the record, that bus frame has perspective. and I'm sure there's been plenty in the rest of the comics.

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[info]real_gone_girl
2009-03-04 02:07 am UTC (link)
if we're going to get technical, panels one & three are in two-point perspective & panel two is in one-point perspective (i guess the perspective in panel three is pretty subtle, but i still had to make lots of lines with rulers to draw it).

& *technically* the first *two* panels are on buses. which, i dunno, may reinforce the claim that my drawings aren't very clear. sigh.

or maybe i need to quit obsessing & draw the freaking next page.

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[info]pomma_penses
2009-03-04 09:09 am UTC (link)
If it helps? I knew that they were both busses, and both different types of busses at that.

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[info]real_gone_girl
2009-03-05 09:11 pm UTC (link)
hooray!

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[info]tomscribble
2009-03-05 12:57 am UTC (link)
What's one point? And two and three point?

I sometimes pop stuff in the foreground but now I always have a guilty feeling about it, since once at art school, while criticising someone else's painting, a friend said it was like "Vordergrund macht Bild gesund" (foreground makes picture well (as in healthy, like - if you think the picture looks weird, stick something in the front and it will be ok) Just to pile on more inhibitions there.

I think it all looks very cohesive and good! and unfortunately unspoilery - you know what kind of spoilers I want...

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[info]real_gone_girl
2009-03-05 09:16 pm UTC (link)
i'm sure you had to learn perspective drawing *somewhere* in there? unless germans are too high-minded for any sorts of art rules. perspective is, no doubt, a racist tool of the man.

i dunno. i think i'm still trying to get to the stage where my art is "readable" & maybe after that i get to try to go the other way for formal experimentation.

i am afraid you must remain unspoiled, then, miss! & i hope i haven't been building up the um, rotten parts of the book to the point where it won't be able to deliver...

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[info]tomscribble
2009-03-05 09:54 pm UTC (link)
Hm. I did learn drawing perspective - I think it was in geometry class in school :P - but it was all in German. So I still don't really know what one point is but I can imagine. I think art schools nowadays don't bother with one point or two point, they are more concerned with THE point...

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[info]real_gone_girl
2009-03-05 10:03 pm UTC (link)
yeah, i learned it in high school rather than in college (emily carr was much more conceptual than practical, although your school, from what i understand, went even further in that direction). that is why i remember so little of it.

i had one-point perspective in almost every panel in jobnik that had a background, but i couldn't grasp how two-point worked at all. then, doing thumbnails for this issue, i realized i had laid out a panel in what had to be three-point perspective (an aerial view). so i looked up three-point online, & asked some friends for advice on it, & in the process, two-point became demystified for me as well.

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[info]tomscribble
2009-03-05 10:24 pm UTC (link)
come to think of it, I haven't done any decent perspective in ages. If I have backgrounds at all, they're all pretty flat, and in the recent drawings that do have perspective it's pretty damn wonky. Oo-er.

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[info]cynima
2009-08-03 06:14 pm UTC (link)
Hi Miriam,

I have recently been reading, enjoying and relating to your works and wanted to get in touch with you to let you know.

I tried to send a longer email to the address you listed on your website, but unfortunately, it bounced back to me, saying the domain name doesn't exist. Is there a better way I can get in touch with you?

Andrea

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